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#1 Game Warden

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:47 PM

If a new member takes the time to introduce themselves, consider how your response might affect their future participation here on ST. A lot of new members join Safaritalk through word of mouth, (much of it coming from me behind the scenes) and if they feel intimidated, or unwelcome, 1) it may lead to them never posting again, and 2) may be that person won't bother to recommend ST to a friend.

Some members have actually said when they joined feeling intimidated by the level of experience, (and that was from people with a lot of experience themselves), so consider how your words might affect their interaction here.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

Matt, that would appear to be common courtesy so I feel disappointed that it was necessary to point it out. I would hate to think a new member felt intimidated or unwelcome by our initial response so point taken and 'let's make nice". :)

Just so all new members realise one thing, I am no expert on anything, just an enthusiastic visitor to safariland and I love hearing all sorts of views and especially photos both great and small.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:59 AM

I am definitely "not guilty" of intimidating new members with anything like experience. Experience of Africa forums perhaps.... And perhaps sometimes guilty of silliness and getting rather off topic. I doubt there is much impact though, and I am genuinely really happy to have new blood and new opinions, and quite open to changing my own opinions. Maybe some self-analysis as to whether that actually shows through is in order. :D

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:16 AM

It might be an idea to warn new members to expect a little bit of enthusiastic "incoming" though, and tell them not to take it to heart - they'll get used to it and they'll find people they can feel are friends and allies in time. I'm not saying that's right or wrong - just might help to manage expectations.

(Lodge and tour operators and people with enthusiasm for a particular point of view, especially).

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:39 AM

Pault, you are anything but intimidating. Apart from your photographic skills that is! :P

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:11 AM

I am a pedant, I shall try at least to be a polite/gentle one. Sorry if I appear harsh sometimes...

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:30 AM

I am a pedant, I shall try at least to be a polite/gentle one. Sorry if I appear harsh sometimes...


Doubt it very much... and anyway, how could we do without our polite pedants? I for one love the way you 'clean up' after me! :D

Edit: No irony intended in this case!
(See, this is the kind of thing I need to add sometimes)

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:54 AM

Pault, you are anything but intimidating. Apart from your photographic skills that is! :P


Thanks twaffle (I'll take the "you are anything but intimidating" part as a compliment too :lol:) But I do have a bit of "form" from the past - nothing that would raise your eyebrows very high I'm sure, but I've managed to offend some in my time.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:02 AM

I've managed to offend some in my time

Haven't we all old chap, haven't we all...

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:43 PM

Must admit, I'm not sure what prompted this... every new member thread I've seen has attracted several warm and welcoming posts, and invitations to get stuck in.

Yes, many members here have much knowledge and experience (though I don't count myself in that) but I don't think that in itself is intimidating, since it's not brandished as some kind of weapon of superiority by anyone. Short of pretending lack of knowledge, I'm not sure what you are advocating, on top of the welcome messages already extended?
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

Obviously I'm relatively new here so I'd like to comment from another perspective. I was greeted warmly here when I posted in the 2012 planning thread last year that my wife and I had just booked our first ever trip to Africa and were so looking forward to it. I was going to post details about the trip in a new thread but became a bit discouraged/intimidated when several negative threads evolved concerning the safari operator we've booked with. I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion but one individual seems to have had a bad experience perhaps and came across to me as implying that if you book a safari using W-S, you're an overpaying dolt. I don't need to come to the internet to be insulted, that's what my friends are for :lol:

Just my two cents, which is worth just that.

Even though I may get roasted by you know who, I still plan to post a trip report and what ever pictures turn out after we return.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:18 PM

I still plan to post a trip report and what ever pictures turn out after we return.


Phew! You were in for a even harder time had you not written that :lol:

I'm with pault: low on the experience but high with the daftness.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:28 PM

Kavey, there was a recent incident that was a discouraging welcome to a new member 'nough said!

David, ignore the bulldogs grabbing at WS and some other camps, operators and agents. Hubris.

Write an entertaining trip report illustrated with magnificent photos no pressure.

To the daft ones, glad you are here.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:38 PM

I'd be happy getting the chance to go on Safari, but I have to make do with meeting some of you in London in just over a week... see if anyone dares criticise that trip report ;)

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:55 PM

David-
I have been an over paying dolt for a couple of decades now, and have enjoyed every minute of it.

What Twaddle said!
One pangolin to rule them all......

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:40 AM

Did someone say overpay?

Well yes probably last year for my 1st safari but damn I had a great time!

Desperately trying to stay within budget for the 2nd but for some reason the budget keeps increasing! :lol:

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:03 AM

I've managed to offend some in my time

Haven't we all old chap, haven't we all...

I have not yet begun to offend...







(... but I think I was once called the most annoying poster on ST. Remembered for something at least.) B)

Edited by ZaminOz, 22 March 2012 - 03:04 AM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:21 AM

What Twaddle said!



An error of predictive text I hope!? :o

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:26 AM


What Twaddle said!



An error of predictive text I hope!? :o

Pangolin may just have a cold?
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:51 AM

I admit to being a little rough rough around the edges. I must say that I have had to tame my attitude a bit to accommodate you sensitive souls. ;)

We all have different backgrounds and represent different countries, and for many English isn't even their first language - there are bound to be some times where we rub each other up the wrong way.

But that shouldn't stop us tucking in to a good old debate.

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