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#21 twaffle

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 03:46 AM

Perhaps a better approach would be to keep the fees the same, but require each vehicle or group to hire a local guide that is certified to ride in a vehicle to interpret, explain and make sure the park rules are followed. This also would help increase income to the locals in a more direct sense.



Some of the Tanzanian Parks in the more remote areas have this requirement, or at least used to.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 03:47 AM

for self drives? I didn't know that. Learn something new every day!

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:55 AM

You folks, need to be happy that you don't need a visa for Botswana. You need to jump up and down in celebration that you don't have to handle the hassles of this................
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Posted 21 September 2009 - 05:02 AM

Hari, have you had any progress with your visa? How much time do you have before you travel?

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 05:43 AM

Twaffle,

They are handing it over today.
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Posted 21 September 2009 - 07:17 AM

my local guides usually say something like 'those are the self drive guys that share GPS coordinates of good camping spots, so they don't have to worry about reservations or camping fees'.


This is predominantly a problem with local people from Botswana & neighbouring countries! I do not think a self driver from the Northern Hemisphere would have the knowledge to do this.

But I do like the guide idea, having done it on my own & with a guide the experience is far, far richer with a good guide.

Zimbabwe here I come in 10 hours time! Yippeeee! ;)

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 07:23 AM

Zimbabwe here I come in 10 hours time! Yippeeee! ;)



Everyone is going on safari but me. :(

Have a wonderful trip.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:52 AM

Nappa, have a great time in Zim.


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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:03 AM

Nappa - safe travels and have a cracking trip.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 12:09 PM

Zimbabwe here I come in 10 hours time! Yippeeee! :P

Bon voyage, Nappa. Send all the people my kindest regards (you know whom I mean).

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:34 AM

http://www.ngamitimes.com/

Latest Ngami Times - come down the page to "The Weekender" section.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:48 AM

Nothing worse than living in another country and returning to your homeland to see all the things which could be done better. Hopefully she felt better after having a little spit, probably nothing will change though.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 08:16 PM

From Consultancy for Tourism Related Sites Identification in the Okavango Delta Ramsar Site (ODRS) - Final Report, by NRP for Tawana Land Board, March 2009:

... there is a strong likelihood that a negative image of the Moremi Game Reserve may impact on the marketability of the mid - high cost lodges operating in or on the boundaries of Moremi Game Reserve. The limited regulation of access to the three sectors in Moremi makes it nearly impossible to guarantee a marketable experience to higher cost market segments. It is therefore proposed and recommended that the broad medium and low density zonation in the Moremi Game Reserve Management Plan (DWNP, 2008) is refined based on the proposed zones in this report.
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An example of this would be to confine self drive and general visitor access in the area east of North Gate to an area no further than 5 km from the North Gate. High and mid end lodges on the northern side of the Khwai River would then have exclusive access to the remaining network of roads in the 15 kms of the Khwai floodplain towards Mababe, in order to allow them to market their product internationally as 'superior'.


Not a bright future for self-driving people in Moremi Game Reserve, if these recommendations become true.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 10:20 PM

Very elitist sounding.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 05:35 AM

I'd like to know how much of that road network is under water these days????

Is the reference about the Desert and Delta lodges?
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 05:43 AM

particularly, when the same area can be accessed on a good mobile safari.

Mobile safaris play an important role in this paper, for instance as additional low-impact option in photographic concessions, and as a replacement in areas where you currently have self-drive tourism.

Is the reference about the Desert and Delta lodges?

No names in the paper.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 05:46 AM

An example of this would be to confine self drive and general visitor access in the area east of North Gate to an area no further than 5 km from the North Gate. High and mid end lodges on the northern side of the Khwai River would then have exclusive access to the remaining network of roads in the 15 kms of the Khwai floodplain towards Mababe, in order to allow them to market their product internationally as 'superior'.


Totally unworkable concept. The DWNP would spend the next few years busy with lawsuits.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 05:48 AM

Nyama, our posts crossed ........... I didn't see your post, while I did the editing of the original post. Anyways, I said it's funny how places like Moremi and Savute over-hype the Lodge experience ........ while the same areas can be accessed on a good mobile option.
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:36 AM

Snik, as you know I'm very ignorant about Botswana but it seems as if much is sacrificed to keep up the illusion that if you go to Botswana expect to pay a lot and you'll get a superior game viewing experience. From all I read though, it is as hit and miss as any authentic wilderness area. Tourists have to be stupid to think anything is guaranteed.

It would be sad if Bots became less and less available to tourists who don't want to spend their life savings on expensive camps. That appears to be the case. Out of my league I'm afraid.

I wish I knew more about the bushmen.

I know you've done a mobile with Massons, I wonder how that will be affected.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:49 AM

I know you've done a mobile with Massons, I wonder how that will be affected.


Mobile safaris play an important role in this paper, for instance as additional low-impact option in photographic concessions, and as a replacement in areas where you currently have self-drive tourism.







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