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@@Tom Kellie to me its a more about a better land utilisation option. There is so much more than just the mammals that occupy the area. Because wildlife are far less destructive and demanding on the land, many other smaller insects forms and birds also thrive. Also game meat is higher in protein and lower in fat, and free of hormones and antibiotics. Internal and external paracides are also harmful to insects and also birds. Ox-peckers for example suffer as a result. Wildlife farmers are also more tolerant of predators.

 

Not to mention what cattle farming is doing to Africa's (and India's) vulture population.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/world/africa/as-vulture-populations-wane-perils-to-ecosystems-circle-overhead.html?_r=0

 

Besides, Eland is the king of meats. Mmmmmm Eland. My only complaint is when it comes out over-cooked. Good, fresh game meat should just look at the grill.

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I want to go one step further and state that in my opinion, anybody who follows a vegetarian diet in the belief that it benefits conversion is fooling themselves.

 

I say this for very much the same reasons that farming with game is better for the environment than cattle are.

 

~ @@Peter Connan

 

In other words, for similar reasons that @@Bugs mentioned?

Where I live vegetarian diets are scarce to non-existent.

While in South Africa earlier this month I tried a vegetarian meal one day.

Not bad at all!

Were I to shift to become a 365 day a year vegetarian, I'd up my already high rate of vegetable soup consumption.

A life with minestrone everyday would entice me...

Tom K.

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Not to mention what cattle farming is doing to Africa's (and India's) vulture population.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/world/africa/as-vulture-populations-wane-perils-to-ecosystems-circle-overhead.html?_r=0

 

Besides, Eland is the king of meats. Mmmmmm Eland. My only complaint is when it comes out over-cooked. Good, fresh game meat should just look at the grill.

 

~ @@ellenhighwater

 

That's very useful to know.

I had no idea that eland was so savory.

If offered it in the Leopard Hills boma this coming January, I'll specify lightly grilled.

Thank you!

Tom K.

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I've eaten various game meat on safari and I have quite enjoyed it. I've eaten gemsbok in Namibia, kudu in Zimbabwe, crocodile in South Africa and various other cuts of game in Capetown. I enjoy it if prepared properly.

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I've eaten various game meat on safari and I have quite enjoyed it. I've eaten gemsbok in Namibia, kudu in Zimbabwe, crocodile in South Africa and various other cuts of game in Capetown. I enjoy it if prepared properly.

 

~ @@optig

 

With such broad game dining experience, did any particular meat stand out?

If you could do so again, what was especially delectable?

@@ellenhighwater has mentioned eland.

Tom K.

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@TomKellie

 

I can't remember what was my favorite game meat. I just know that I enjoyed all of them. I look forward to returning to Capetown when I can eat more game meat. I am also looking forward to visit Pamushana and Tswalu Kalahari where they serve game.

I have often wished that there would be more game meat available in Nairobi, Kenya other than ostrich and crocodile.

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@TomKellie

 

I can't remember what was my favorite game meat. I just know that I enjoyed all of them. I look forward to returning to Capetown when I can eat more game meat. I am also looking forward to visit Pamushana and Tswalu Kalahari where they serve game.

I have often wished that there would be more game meat available in Nairobi, Kenya other than ostrich and crocodile.

 

~ @@optig

 

Thank you for explaining that. I hadn't realized that ostrich and crocodile were prevalent in Nairobi.

Capetown is known for serving game?

This topic interests me as heretofore I've never knowingly eaten anywhere that served game.

It seems that I need to get out and about more!

Tom K.

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@TomKellie

Ostrich and crocodile are not prevalent in Nairobi but they are served at Carnivore and some butchers in Nairobi.

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@TomKellie

Ostrich and crocodile are not prevalent in Nairobi but they are served at Carnivore and some butchers in Nairobi.

 

~ @@optig

 

Thank you for the clarification.

I'm sorry that I misunderstood.

In thinking over your comments, it surprises me that game isn't more frequently offered, if indeed it's flavorsome.

Beef and pork dishes are nearly always on offer, yet the conditions necessary to raise cattle and swine may not be the ideal fit for much of Africa.

Were I in Kenya, I'd most likely refrain from stating that too loudly...

Tom K.

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What an interesting topic!

Let me add an interesting dimension to it, but forgive me if my stats are out, though it won't be by much.

In the '80's when SA was suffering its worst drought in living memory, cattle farmers, throughout what is now Limpopo Province, were near bankrupted through massive stock fatalities. They noticed that despite the cattle dying, the previously 'nuisance' game was maintaining. This was the beginning of a game ranch explosion in SA. Since then wildlife (across all species and across the country) has apparently enjoyed an 1800% increase in numbers and previously overgrazed land has enjoyed substantial rehabilitation. What fuels this economy is largely the venison market.

Here in Botswana, we serve and enjoy a variety of venisons - all of which are harvested sustainably from game ranches near Francistown, Ghanzi and the Tuli Block.

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@@LastChanceSafaris - I haven't seen game meat in menus in Bots lodges since maybe 2006 or 2007

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Some operators (mostly the corporate set) won't put it on the menu because of a) an 'ethical' standpoint, B) because their camps need to follow a weekly menu to prevent repetition for guests on their circuit, and c) seasonality and availability makes B) difficult. Quite a few owner operated lodges still place it on their menus when it is available.

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What an interesting topic!

Let me add an interesting dimension to it, but forgive me if my stats are out, though it won't be by much.

In the '80's when SA was suffering its worst drought in living memory, cattle farmers, throughout what is now Limpopo Province, were near bankrupted through massive stock fatalities. They noticed that despite the cattle dying, the previously 'nuisance' game was maintaining. This was the beginning of a game ranch explosion in SA. Since then wildlife (across all species and across the country) has apparently enjoyed an 1800% increase in numbers and previously overgrazed land has enjoyed substantial rehabilitation. What fuels this economy is largely the venison market.

 

 

I think what you said here applied to Madikwe. But the game farming industry in SA had started long before 1980. One of the early pioneers were Jim Feely and Norman Deane who left Natal Parks board to open "Ubizane" game reserve in 1970. The first legal white rhino hunt took place in this reserve in 1971. Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) had already had some success in private farming of wildlife prior to this.

 

However an important legislative change was made in 1983 when game were no longer as "res nullius" (belonging to nobody in particular) to "occupatio" according to Rabie and Fuggle - this was a critical intervention allowed for wildlife ownership, and in turn this was what spawned the expansion of wildlife on private land.

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@@madaboutcheetah

Some operators (mostly the corporate set) won't put it on the menu because of a) an 'ethical' standpoint, B) because their camps need to follow a weekly menu to prevent repetition for guests on their circuit, and c) seasonality and availability makes B) difficult. Quite a few owner operated lodges still place it on their menus when it is available.

 

~ @@LastChanceSafaris

 

Thank you for the clarification about camp menu practices.

I'm unclear as to what the ethical standpoint might entail, i.e. how eating farmed game might be perceived as being unethical.

From what you've written, the lack of reliable year-round sources affects game being offered on menus.

Might there eventually be shifts in game husbandry which would facilitate it being more regularly offered?

Tom K.

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I think what you said here applied to Madikwe. But the game farming industry in SA had started long before 1980. One of the early pioneers were Jim Feely and Norman Deane who left Natal Parks board to open "Ubizane" game reserve in 1970. The first legal white rhino hunt took place in this reserve in 1971. Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) had already had some success in private farming of wildlife prior to this.

 

However an important legislative change was made in 1983 when game were no longer as "res nullius" (belonging to nobody in particular) to "occupatio" according to Rabie and Fuggle - this was a critical intervention allowed for wildlife ownership, and in turn this was what spawned the expansion of wildlife on private land.

 

~ @@Bugs

 

Your clarification above is very helpful.

I hadn't realized that the shift in legal reasoning which facilitated wildlife ownership dated back to 1983.

It's a concept about which it's required time for me to fully grasp.

Tom K.

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Tom

I think by "unethical" they mean that guests may have a negative reaction to the idea of any game meat being on the plate irrespective of its origin. Eating game meat is perceived by some to be linked to hunting. What safari camp would want to risk being the subject of a social media vilification campaign?

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Tom

I think by "unethical" they mean that guests may have a negative reaction to the idea of any game meat being on the plate irrespective of its origin. Eating game meat is perceived by some to be linked to hunting. What safari camp would want to risk being the subject of a social media vilification campaign?

 

~ @@ZaminOz

 

I really appreciate your clarification of the supposedly unethical aspects of offering game as a menu choice.

Without your helpful explanation I would have remained in the dark, as it would never have occurred to me that game dishes were linked to hunting.

Now that you've spelled it out, I see that there may be a significant segment of safari clients who are unaware of game farms.

Similarly, where I live most urban supermarket consumers presuppose that salmon cuts in the seafood section were netted in the wild, although packages in many cases explicitly state that they were farmed.

I've never run up against strong anti-hunting feelings, thus wasn't aware that the imagined linking of game dishes with hunted wildlife might be a serious issue.

Safaritalk is my continuing education site of choice.

Thank you for sorting this out. Safari camp operators seemingly contend with a host of perceptions which may or may not be linked to reality.

Tom K.

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