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Posted 14 March 2017 - 08:27 AM

This bird of prey was spotted over Fishhook, near Cape Town last February. In my view it is some sort of Goshawk, possibly a melanistic form. Compared to the Red-winged Starling in the picture it is quite large. That probably rules out the Gabar Goshawk. So could it be an African Goshawk or a Black Sparrowhawk? The size points to the latter, but I am unsure. Thanks for any help!

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:52 AM

looks like a black harrier to me @PeterHG (not that I've seen one!)



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:23 AM

looks like a black harrier to me @PeterHG (not that I've seen one!)

 

Thanks for the input @Tdgraves! I don't know about the harrier, though. It is certainly dark, but it, but it lacks the white rump. 



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:13 PM

Marsh harrier maybe?


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

Marsh harrier maybe?


Thanks Peter, I'll have a closer look at the harriers.
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Posted 15 March 2017 - 01:03 AM

I think @Peter Connan is right. Another vote for Marsh harrier. Also the wing shape (2nd image) doesn't look right for a Black Sparrowhawk.

 

Do you have any other pics?


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 05:00 PM

Thanks @Geoff! No, I don't have any more pics, but I'll gladly put it down as a Marsh Harrier. 



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:10 PM

Hi guys

 

I am not quite happy with the wing shape for a Marsh Harrier.

I would expect longer and narrower wings as well as some darker wing tips.

However I am at a loss to suggest a different species.



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:58 AM

Hi guys

 

I am not quite happy with the wing shape for a Marsh Harrier.

I would expect longer and narrower wings as well as some darker wing tips.

However I am at a loss to suggest a different species.

 

Thanks also for joining the discussion @mvecht! It appears I'm not the only one with ID doubts for this one....



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

@PeterHG - I have no doubts as to the ID of your bird.

It is an African Goshawk. The bold yellow-orange eye ring, yellowish bill with dark tip, tail bands, broad wings, etc. cinch the ID.

I think what may be throwing @Tdgraves, @Geoff, and @Peter Connan is that your photos do not show the bird's underside. Rare to have flight photos of African Goshawk not showing underside...

Check this photo of an African Goshawk:

http://africanraptor...rican-goshawk-3

Check this YouTube video and pause it close to a minute in:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=HYGz32iv1vw
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:08 PM

@PeterHG - I have no doubts as to the ID of your bird.

It is an African Goshawk. The bold yellow-orange eye ring, yellowish bill with dark tip, tail bands, broad wings, etc. cinch the ID.

I think what may be throwing @Tdgraves, @Geoff, and @Peter Connan is that your photos do not show the bird's underside. Rare to have flight photos of African Goshawk not showing underside...

Check this photo of an African Goshawk:

http://africanraptor...rican-goshawk-3

Check this YouTube video and pause it close to a minute in:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=HYGz32iv1vw

 

Many thanks for your explanation and the links. @offshorebirder! After looking at both I have to agree with you to switch from harrier to African Goshawk. It's  pity I did not get a shot of the underside, but from what I remember the way it flew reminded me straight away of some kind of hawk.


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