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#1 Africalover

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 10:17 AM

Hi.

Have any of you had lions in camp touching the tent like shown on this video.
I have had lions close to my little dome tent, but never this.
Don't show this to upcoming safarier, going bush camping, they might cancel 😀

Cheers.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 10:36 AM

@Africalover Your link is not working BUT if it is the clip where a male lion (plus one other) is pacing around the front of a tent, the front flap is up, the man is telling it to go away and music is playing....... it is apparently a set up filmed near Johannesburg with 'tame lions' for a project.

 

The clip I saw yesterday has now been removed but got a lot of us going on FB until the story came out. :)

 

Those of us who have done this sort of camping know well that the rules are closed flaps, keep quiet etc. if you want to remain safe.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 11:05 AM

@ Wilddog - this is the link. If this is the case, I might remove the topic. You are right. But a lot of fly camping is done in open tents, which I allways think is too dangerous in big game area. I never put the flaps down, only if it rains. I want to see what's going on outside during night.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 12:14 PM

Seems to be working now.................

 

Yes that is the one. No need to delete topic/post.................

 

Interesting for others.

 

Some ST menbers on FB, including myself, came across it yesterday and we all had the same reponse as you. It was only later we were advised of the filming for some TV programme a couple of years ago.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 01:01 PM

@ Wilddog - this is the link. If this is the case, I might remove the topic. You are right. But a lot of fly camping is done in open tents, which I allways think is too dangerous in big game area. I never put the flaps down, only if it rains. I want to see what's going on outside during night.

 

in May last year a 15 year old camping inside Crocodile Bridge in KNP was dragged out of his open tent and seriously injured by a hyena, loosing an eye



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 01:56 PM

@ Ice - I have heard about this incident, their tent was totally open. I allways have the green heavy duty mosquito net in the dome tents closed down. As far as I know most accidents happens because of ignorance or bad timing.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 02:40 PM

I recently went fly camping with @Kitsafari in Gonorezhou National Park and didn't think that it was at all dangerous.  The mossie domes were zipped close when we slept out at night,and

my guides Ant Kaschula and Scott Pelly were slepping in their domes near me. I just loved fly camping.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:10 PM

@ optig - If nothing dangerous comes around a Mossi dome it's ok. I have had lions, elephants, hippo, buffalo, hyena, ect. Within 2m. From my 2,4x2,4m dome tent literally looking at them through the green heavy duty mosquito net. I am not sure I would like to encounter - for instance lions or elephants within 2m in a lightweight Mossi dome.
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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:46 PM

The only lion which laid against my tent ever was the lone female in Liuwa. Often had lions close to where I slept (<5m while sleeping under a mosquitoe net, with other people just sleeping in the open), lions mating next to my tent, but never against the tent.

 

Apparently the video you posted was filmed about 4-5 years ago for a show by Kevin Richardson.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:02 PM

@egilio - you are far more experience than me in Africa. When you are saying, in the open - you mean in a Mossi tent?
I don't consider me a sissy, but I would find it very uncomfortable to be surrounded by lions or elephants in a lightweight mossy tent. I love to sit up in my tent looking out on what's around. I am not sure that is wise in a mossy tent. I find it exiting enough to watch a bull elephant 1m from my tent and listening to the rumble from it's stomach.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 11:00 PM

With 'in the open' I meant 'in the open', just on a sheet or mattress, not under anything. I was under a mozzi net, surrounded by others. In that case we were building a boma with quite a big crew, about 20 people. I've slept in tents, little tents, without the rain fly (ie, just the mozzi netting) and waking up looking at the belly of a bull elephant...quite an experience but not something I would feel comfortable doing day after day! In a bigger tent...different story. I've often slept on the hood and the roof of a car, just on a little mattress without any cover (as long as there were not mozzies).


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 11:50 PM

@Africalover I think lions / animals in camp is worth a topic of it's own.... In trip reports, photo's on the net and each of our experiences this stuff happens more than some people might think.



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 02:35 PM

We've stayed at camp adjacent to the Mara Triangle a few times.  It is a larger camp and we try to go in shoulder season when there are few other visitors and it's relatively quiet.  The camp has a low, broad fence to keep elephants out (about 2 feet high x 2 feed wide).  On our first visit during the orientation walk someone commented about staying in a fenced camp and our guide said "oh don't worry, the cats just jump right over it".  We've seen cat tracks and heard occasional stories of staff seeing leopards early in the morning as they were opening the kitchen, etc. (which we though was just fodder for the tourists).  On our last trip the staff told us that there were three younger lions (~2 years old) that would sometimes hunt warthogs in the camp (as they were a bit less skittish and presumably a bit easier to catch).  There was one incident when two lions were pursuing a warthog through the staff area in the early morning hours.  The warthog and one lion went running by the sanitation block (staff loo) when out stepped one of the camp staff from the loo.  He was knocked to the ground by the second pursuing lion who fortunately was so focused on the warthog that he just kept going.  Needless to say he was quite shaken up! 

 

On our last day we were leaving the camp very early and were driving down a narrow, forested stretch of dirt road within the fenced camp perimeter, (which I've walked down before), when we saw two of the lions hunting warthogs.  The wart hog darted out of the bush on one side of the road, crossed in front of our vehicle and ran into bush on the other side, closely chased by a lion. A second lion emerged and carefully scanned the bush area where the warthog entered.  After about a minute he leaned back a bit on his haunches and pounced headfirst into the brush.  We were so surprised at our good fortune and transfixed by the unexpected action before we even left camp that we didn't notice the third lion behind our vehicle.  She slowly sauntered by the side of the open sided Landcruiser; after she passed by we observed for a few more minutes until she too went into the bush.  At this point we slowly reversed the vehicle and travelled a few hundred yards down the road (and around a small curve) to a wooden guard post to warn the askari on duty.  I excitedly exclaimed "tatu simba cats" and pointed down the road.  He gave me a look of slight confusion and patience (as if thinking: just another crazy tourist all exited because he thinks saw lions, isn't that nice). Our guide then explained to him in Swahili what we'd just seen.  The askari looked back at me as his eyes grew big.  He let out a low whistle and slowly stepped backwards into the guard shack and closed the door.


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 03:17 PM

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Apologies for the poor picture quality!


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