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Dutch Tourist Vehicle in Laikipia, Kenya Stoned by Pokot Youths

Kenya Laikipia Pokot Stoning a Vehicle

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#1 Tom Kellie

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 12:11 PM

http://www.the-star....ikipia_c1480697

 

~ Seven tourists from the Netherlands were visiting the Laikipia Nature Conservancy on a Friday evening when ten Pokot youths confronted them, throwing stones, smashing their vehicle's windscreen and windows.

 

This article from The Star (Nairobi) mentions a string of incidents over the past two years in which armed raiders have overrun tourist camps in Laikipia, requiring evacuation of the visitors.

 

A Kenyan Member of Parliament for Laikipia East commented that: “...all we want is for the government to flush out these herders. They are grazing on privately owned ranches with total disregard to the owners.”



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Posted 03 January 2017 - 04:15 PM

I can only say that this isn't good for Kenyan tourism. I'm going to visit Laikipia myself in February.



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 03:24 AM

An interesting but unwelcome cultural interaction. :unsure: However, I am not sure to what extent the group were typical tourists as the person mentioned is the country director for Kenya a large Dutch aid organisation that is probably working up in Laikipia - plus they had a police escort. Not that it makes a big difference, but it's comforting to think that the people in the vehicle would probably have known what was going on and perhaps even why. I always like to know why I am being stoned.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:04 AM

I always like to know why I am being stoned.

You make it sound like this is a regular occurrence. 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:25 AM

 

I always like to know why I am being stoned.

You make it sound like this is a regular occurrence. 

 

 

Yes. I'm wondering what he throws on his camp fires.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:40 AM

Firewood can be hard to find @Geoff.

Don't worry @Zarek Cockar I'll be good!
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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:49 PM

Distressing story. Though I find it hard to believe that there's been a 'string of incidents' in which tourists have been being evacuated from camps after armed raiders have come in - this is the first I've heard of it - wouldn't some of us who keep up on the Africa news relating to safari tourism have heard of this before now? Maybe it is self-drivers, but I wouldn't think it's more formal lodges or camps?


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:03 PM

After having lived in Nairobi this is the first time that I've ever heard of this happening; nothing could be less common. In my own experience Kenyans are very happy that tourists love their country so much,and

of course realize the economic benefits that tourism brings them.



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:28 PM

@SafariChick Unfortunately it happened at least a couple of times during the 2014-2015 drought when the herders entered Buffalo Springs and Shaba and there were clashes. That spread into Laikipia for a while, and some places had to close. There had been much worse situations in the past "up north" but I am not sure whether they spread into Laikipia. All of this tends to stay in the news for a day at most. 

I never saw anything about tourists being caught up in it though.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 12:04 AM

@optig Maybe because it was a small part of a much larger issue it barely made the news? However, a number of people were killed in one incident (a tourist free incident - none of this really had anything to do with tourism.

Also, none of this impacted on the vast majority.of what we think of as Laikipia for tourism purposes.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 01:24 AM

@pault I quite agree. I'm going to Ol Malo lodge in February and I'm not at all worried.



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:42 AM

@optig I haven't seen anything in the news since that drought ended and I can't see the Pokot traveling all the way over to Ol Malo to make a point to you.  :) I think they are from the Baringo area?


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 06:56 AM

the northern  rangelands trust 2016 annual report mentions that their security officers have attended to a number of roadside incidents, none of them involve tourists


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