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Is it possible to see the whole world´s cats?

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Do you think it is possible to see all the 40 species of wild cat species in the world?

 

I think it is impossible. But I think 30 of them is realistic if you put ome money in and have time.

 

It would be a cool life project to collect them.

These days you can see most of them quite easy if you have time. There is well known spots for many, many of them.

 

But here is some hard ones as well. Asiatic Golden cat, African golden cat and of course the Bornean Bay cat. Maybe one or two of the smaller ones in South america is time consuming as hell but otherwise it is pretty much straight forward :)

 

Imagine if you managed to see all of them and only have the Bornean Bay cat left... :)

 

I have a life project of visiting at least 100 countries before my death but need a harder one... maybe should start to search for cats when I retiring from work in 30 years :) There is only like 32 left...

 

How many of them have you seen?

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So, you count the Indian Leopard different from the African?

 

I'm not even at 10 .........

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The thought has ran through my mind, that it would be really cool. Smaller tropical cats will be difficult (colocolo, kodkod, tigrina). Like you say the golden cats are difficult, I think Andean cat is difficult too. Not sure about manoel, flathead cat. I thought clouded leopard (both of them) would be impossible too, but then recently I read here that you actually have some chance of seeing them.

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Even the total species number seems up for debate. I found this list:

 

Chinese Mountain Cat, Felis bieti;

Wildcat, Felis libyca/silvertris/ornata/catus;

Black-footed Cat, Felis nigripes;

Sand Cat, Felis margarita;

Jungle Cat, Felis chaus;

Pallass Cat, Otocolobus manul;

Leopard Cat, Prionailurus bengalensis;

Flat-headed Cat, Prionailurus planiceps;

Rusty-spotted Cat, Prionailurus rubiginosus;

Fishing Cat, Prionailurus viverrinus;

Marbled Cat, Pardofelis marmorata;

Bay Cat, Catopuma badia;

Asian Golden Cat, Catopuma temminckii;

Serval, Leptailurus serval;

Caracal, Caracal caracal;

African Golden Cat, Profelis aurata;

Geoffroys Cat, Leopardus geoffroyi;

Oncillas Leopardus tigrinus and Leopardus guttulus (current view is that these are two distinct species);

Margay Leopardus wiedii;

Ocelot, Leopardus pardalis;

Guiña, Leopardus guigna;

Colocolo, Leopardus colocolo;

Andean Cat, Oreailurus jacobita;

Eurasian Lynx, Lynx lynx;

Iberian Lynx, Lynx pardinus;

Bobcat, Lynx rufus;

Canada Lynx, Lynx canadensis;

Jaguarundi, Herpailurus yagouaroundi;

Puma, Puma concolor;

Cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus;

Snow Leopard, Uncia uncia;

Clouded leopards, Neofelis nebulosa and Neofelis diardi;

Tiger, Panthera tigris;

Lion, Panthera leo;

Leopard, Panthera pardus;

Jaguar, Panthera once.

 

Of these, I have seen:

 

Chinese Mountain Cat, Felis bieti;

Wildcat, (Southern African wildcat (Felis silvestris cafra))

Jungle Cat, Felis chaus;

Leopard Cat, Prionailurus bengalensis; Chinese leopard cat P. b. chinensis & Bornean leopard cat P. b. borneoensis

Serval, Leptailurus serval;

Caracal, Caracal caracal;

Ocelot, Leopardus pardalis;

Eurasian Lynx, Lynx lynx;

Iberian Lynx, Lynx pardinus;

Jaguarundi, Herpailurus yagouaroundi;

Cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus; African Cheetah

Snow Leopard, Uncia uncia;

Tiger, Panthera tigris; Bengal tiger (P.t.tigris)

African lion, Panthera leo; and Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persica)

African leopard (Panthera pardus pardus) & Indian leopard (P. p. fusca)

Jaguar, Panthera onca; Pantanal Jaguar (P. o. palustris)

 

We'll be trying really hard for all the Bornean cats next Feb. Depending on logistics we may be looking for one more person to join us, so if anyone is keen let me know.

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Life project - good idea, but cats will be soo difficult.

 

Other life projects could be

- cranes

- eagles

- parrots

- falcons

 

I hope you don´t feel that I steal the thread ...

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So, you count the Indian Leopard different from the African?

 

I'm not even at 10 .........

No, no . Leopard is one species.

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The thought has ran through my mind, that it would be really cool. Smaller tropical cats will be difficult (colocolo, kodkod, tigrina). Like you say the golden cats are difficult, I think Andean cat is difficult too. Not sure about manoel, flathead cat. I thought clouded leopard (both of them) would be impossible too, but then recently I read here that you actually have some chance of seeing them.

Flatheaded cat you can quite easily see in Kinabatangan river, Borneo. When it´s low water level they come out and hunt the rivershores at night. No problem for them.

 

Clouded Leopard, no problem. Put in a week or two in Deramakot, Borneo.

 

Manul cat or Pallas cat is easy in Sichuan province, China and also in Mongolia where it is very common.

 

The smaller ones in South america like you said and also maybe Andean cat will be the problem...

The Golden cats and Bornean bay cat more or less impossible.

 

But if you want to be first in the worlds history with something, who said it would be easy :)

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Of these, I have seen:

 

Chinese Mountain Cat, Felis bieti;

Wildcat, (Southern African wildcat (Felis silvestris cafra))

Jungle Cat, Felis chaus;

Leopard Cat, Prionailurus bengalensis; Chinese leopard cat P. b. chinensis & Bornean leopard cat P. b. borneoensis

Serval, Leptailurus serval;

Caracal, Caracal caracal;

Ocelot, Leopardus pardalis;

Eurasian Lynx, Lynx lynx;

Iberian Lynx, Lynx pardinus;

Jaguarundi, Herpailurus yagouaroundi;

Cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus; African Cheetah

Snow Leopard, Uncia uncia;

Tiger, Panthera tigris; Bengal tiger (P.t.tigris)

African lion, Panthera leo; and Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persica)

African leopard (Panthera pardus pardus) & Indian leopard (P. p. fusca)

Jaguar, Panthera onca; Pantanal Jaguar (P. o. palustris)

 

We'll be trying really hard for all the Bornean cats next Feb. Depending on logistics we may be looking for one more person to join us, so if anyone is keen let me know.

Very nice list! Almost half way :)

 

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Well I dipped Pallas cat in Sichuan and didn't get flat headed cat or anything other than leopard cat in Borneo so I would not say either are "easy" but certainly possible!

 

 

 

The thought has ran through my mind, that it would be really cool. Smaller tropical cats will be difficult (colocolo, kodkod, tigrina). Like you say the golden cats are difficult, I think Andean cat is difficult too. Not sure about manoel, flathead cat. I thought clouded leopard (both of them) would be impossible too, but then recently I read here that you actually have some chance of seeing them.

 

Flatheaded cat you can quite easily see in Kinabatangan river, Borneo. When it´s low water level they come out and hunt the rivershores at night. No problem for them.

Clouded Leopard, no problem. Put in a week or two in Deramakot, Borneo.

 

Manul cat or Pallas cat is easy in Sichuan province, China and also in Mongolia where it is very common.

 

The smaller ones in South america like you said and also maybe Andean cat will be the problem...

The Golden cats and Bornean bay cat more or less impossible.

But if you want to be first in the worlds history with something, who said it would be easy :)

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Maybe people can add to this. If a park/area has an especially good chance to see a certain cat (compared to other areas where you can see it) I've made it bold.

 

Chinese Mountain Cat (Felis bieti):
Wildcat (Felis libyca/silvertris/ornata/catus): Moremi, Central Kalahari GR, Kgalakgadi NP, Etosha NP
Black-footed Cat (Felis nigripes):
Sand Cat (Felis margarita):
Jungle Cat (Felis chaus):
Pallas's Cat/Manul (Otocolobus manul): Sichuan Province China
Leopard Cat (Prionailurus bengalensis):
Flat-headed Cat (Prionailurus planiceps):
Rusty-spotted Cat (Prionailurus rubiginosus):
Fishing Cat (Prionailurus viverrinus):
Marbled Cat (Pardofelis marmorata):
Bay Cat (Catopuma badia):
Asian Golden Cat (Catopuma temminckii):
Serval (Leptailurus serval): South Luangwa NP, Kafue NP, Moremi GR, Central Kalahari GR
Caracal (Caracal caracal):
African Golden Cat (Profelis aurata):
Geoffroys Cat (Leopardus geoffroyi):
Oncilla (Leopardus tigrinus):

Southern Tigrina (Leopardus guttulus):
Margay (Leopardus wiedii):
Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis):
Guiña (Leopardus guigna):
Colocolo (Leopardus colocolo):
Andean Cat (Oreailurus jacobita):
Eurasian Lynx (Lynx lynx):
Iberian Lynx (Lynx pardinus): Donana NP
Bobcat (Lynx rufus):
Canada Lynx (Lynx canadensis):
Jaguarundi (Herpailurus yagouaroundi):
Puma (Puma concolor): Torres del Paine NP
Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus): Serengeti NP, Maasai Mara area, Kruger NP, Kgalakgadi NP, Central Kalahari GR, Kafue NP, Liuwa Plains NP
Snow Leopard (Uncia uncia):
Clouded leopard (Neofelis nebulosa):

Sunda clouded leopard (Neofelis diardi): Deramakot Borneo
Tiger, Panthera tigris: Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve, Panna National Park
Lion, Panthera leo: Most game reserves and national parks in Africa,

Asiatic lion (P. l. persica): Gir National Forest India
Leopard, Panthera pardus: South Luangwa NP, present in most game reserves and national parks in Africa,

Sri Lankan Leopard (P. p. kotiya): Yala NP

Jaguar (Panthera onca): Pantanal (more specifically?)

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Maybe people can add to this. If a park/area has an especially good chance to see a certain cat (compared to other areas where you can see it) I've made it bold.

 

Chinese Mountain Cat (Felis bieti): ruoeregai area of Sichuan.

Wildcat (Felis libyca/silvertris/ornata/catus): Moremi, Central Kalahari GR, Kgalakgadi NP, Etosha NP

Black-footed Cat (Felis nigripes): Marrick Farm South Africa

Sand Cat (Felis margarita):

Jungle Cat (Felis chaus): Velavader, Gujurat

Pallas's Cat/Manul (Otocolobus manul): Sichuan Province China - Ruoregai also qinghai

Leopard Cat (Prionailurus bengalensis): spotlighting at Wolong, Sichuan, & Tanjihe ,Sichuan. Tabin, Deramakot and Danum- Borneo

Flat-headed Cat (Prionailurus planiceps):

Rusty-spotted Cat (Prionailurus rubiginosus):

Fishing Cat (Prionailurus viverrinus):

Marbled Cat (Pardofelis marmorata): Tabin, and Deramakot, Borneo.

Bay Cat (Catopuma badia):

Asian Golden Cat (Catopuma temminckii):

Serval (Leptailurus serval): South Luangwa NP, Kafue NP, Moremi GR, Central Kalahari GR

Caracal (Caracal caracal):

African Golden Cat (Profelis aurata):

Geoffroys Cat (Leopardus geoffroyi):

Oncilla (Leopardus tigrinus):

Southern Tigrina (Leopardus guttulus):

Margay (Leopardus wiedii):

Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis): North Pantanal

Guiña (Leopardus guigna):

Colocolo (Leopardus colocolo):

Andean Cat (Oreailurus jacobita):

Eurasian Lynx (Lynx lynx): Hemis national park, Ladakh

Iberian Lynx (Lynx pardinus): Donana, Sierra de adujarNP

Bobcat (Lynx rufus):

Canada Lynx (Lynx canadensis):

Jaguarundi (Herpailurus yagouaroundi): North Pantanal

Puma (Puma concolor): Torres del Paine NP

Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus): Serengeti NP, Maasai Mara area, Kruger NP, Kgalakgadi NP, Central Kalahari GR, Kafue NP, Liuwa Plains NP

Snow Leopard (Uncia uncia):

Clouded leopard (Neofelis nebulosa):

Sunda clouded leopard (Neofelis diardi): Deramakot Borneo

Tiger, Panthera tigris: Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve, Panna National Park, Tadoba, Kanha, etc

Lion, Panthera leo: Most game reserves and national parks in Africa,

Asiatic lion (P. l. persica): Gir National Forest India

Leopard, Panthera pardus: South Luangwa NP, present in most game reserves and national parks in Africa,

Sri Lankan Leopard (P. p. kotiya): Yala NP

Jaguar (Panthera onca): Pantanal (more specifically?)

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when we travel to Kruger, we usually spot at least one serval (during one of the guided night drives)

 

also, I believe KTP is a (comparitively) good place to spot caracals (though we've only seen three in ten years of going there)

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Added some more stuff to here... (my edits are underlined)

 

 

Maybe people can add to this. If a park/area has an especially good chance to see a certain cat (compared to other areas where you can see it) I've made it bold.

Chinese Mountain Cat (Felis bieti): ruoeregai area of Sichuan.
Wildcat (Felis libyca/silvertris/ornata/catus): Moremi, Central Kalahari GR, Kgalakgadi NP, Etosha NP
Black-footed Cat (Felis nigripes): Marrick Farm South Africa
Sand Cat (Felis margarita): Aousserd Road (Western Sahara)
Jungle Cat (Felis chaus): Velavader, Gujurat
Pallas's Cat/Manul (Otocolobus manul): Sichuan Province China - Ruoregai also qinghai
Leopard Cat (Prionailurus bengalensis): spotlighting at Wolong, Sichuan, & Tanjihe ,Sichuan. Tabin, Deramakot and Danum- Borneo
Flat-headed Cat (Prionailurus planiceps): Kinabatangan River (Borneo)
Rusty-spotted Cat (Prionailurus rubiginosus): Sigiriya NP (Sri Lanka)
Fishing Cat (Prionailurus viverrinus): some sites in Sri Lanka (can't recall the name now)
Marbled Cat (Pardofelis marmorata): Tabin, and Deramakot, Borneo.
Bay Cat (Catopuma badia):
Asian Golden Cat (Catopuma temminckii):
Serval (Leptailurus serval): South Luangwa NP, Kafue NP, Moremi GR, Central Kalahari GR
Caracal (Caracal caracal): West Coast NP and Kgalagadi (both South Africa) not bad
African Golden Cat (Profelis aurata):
Geoffroys Cat (Leopardus geoffroyi): El Palmar NP and Ceibas NP (both Argentina), Kaa-Iya NP (Bolivia)
Oncilla (Leopardus tigrinus):
Southern Tigrina (Leopardus guttulus):
Margay (Leopardus wiedii): Coastal Michoacan (Mexico)
Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis): North Pantanal, San Francisco Farm (Brazil)
Guiña (Leopardus guigna):
Colocolo (Leopardus colocolo):
Andean Cat (Oreailurus jacobita): possible at Salar de Surire (Chile)
Eurasian Lynx (Lynx lynx): Hemis national park, Ladakh
Iberian Lynx (Lynx pardinus): Donana, Sierra de adujarNP
Bobcat (Lynx rufus): Pinnacles NP and surrounds (California), Point Reyes NSS (California)
Canada Lynx (Lynx canadensis): reliable in Denali NP (Alaska) in snowshoe hare years
Jaguarundi (Herpailurus yagouaroundi): North Pantanal, Kaa-Iya NP (Bolivia)
Puma (Puma concolor): Torres del Paine NP, Kaa-Iya NP (Bolivia)
Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus): Serengeti NP, Maasai Mara area, Kruger NP, Kgalakgadi NP, Central Kalahari GR, Kafue NP, Liuwa Plains NP
Snow Leopard (Uncia uncia): Hemis NP (Ladakh)
Clouded leopard (Neofelis nebulosa):
Sunda clouded leopard (Neofelis diardi): Deramakot Borneo
Tiger, Panthera tigris: Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve, Panna National Park, Tadoba, Kanha, etc
Lion, Panthera leo: Most game reserves and national parks in Africa,
Asiatic lion (P. l. persica): Gir National Forest India
Leopard, Panthera pardus: South Luangwa NP, present in most game reserves and national parks in Africa,
Sri Lankan Leopard (P. p. kotiya): Yala NP
Jaguar (Panthera onca): Pantanal (more specifically?) - Porto Jofre area of Pantanal, Kaa-Iya NP (Bolivia)

 

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Great list!

 

Well... my fear is confirmed :)

The smaller ones in South america, Golden cats and Bay cat is the real deal. For the other it is just about time because there is a well defined search area...

I think it´s Yala NP in Sri Lanka who is the place for Fishing cat as well.

 

Sand cat area, Aousserd road, Western sahara was new for me. After some googling they truly have great sightings when spotlighting in the night along the road.

Dahkla is on my list for future. Easy to reach and not very far away from northern Europe.

Regarding Colocolo it has been spotted in Pantanal. In later days as an own species, Pantanal cat. But only very few sightings. It must be better place for Colocolo as it has a wide habitat.

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Asiatic golden cat have been seen in Kerinci Seblat NP and Way Kambas NP. Both on Sumatra, Indonesia.

 

Kerinci seems to had a fair chance couple of years ago with regularly sightings of at least two individuals.

 

Seems that Sumatra is the place for them!

 

From kerinci:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369673@N06/3885546959

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