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SOUTH AFRICA RHINO WAR ONGOING COVERAGE

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R440m spent but rhinos still slaughtered 30 JUNE 2015

 

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/R440m-spent-but-rhinos-still-slaughtered-20150630

 

a whole lot spent but an estimated 3 rhinos stil die per day

 

sources tell city news that the numbers killed are a whole lot higher than official figures

 

of special interest is the mapm attached to the report which shows that a whole lot of the killing is in sthn kruger and by south africans

 

the minister says that figures are no longer being released regularly as that supports poachers

 

the prosecution results figures are very inexact

 

Rhino poaching: What the minister says

2015-06-30 14:27

 

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Rhino-poaching-What-the-minister-says-20150630

 

 

We have to understand how rhino-poaching syndicates operate’

2015-06-30 14:30

 

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/We-have-to-understand-how-rhino-poaching-syndicates-operate-20150630

 

 

Added here to make the thread complete

 

okpeckers report on kruger rhino numbers

 

 

http://safaritalk.net/topic/14577-kruger-rhino-numbers-in-crisis-says-expert/

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prince harry is joining the front line of anti poaching operations

 

if the link does not work look up PRINCE HARRY JOINS FIGHT AGAINST POACHERS international business times Aug 10 2015

 

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/prince-harry-joins-fight-against-poachers-1514752

 

they give a kruger poaching figure of 558 year to date

 

the previous official figure was 290 to end of april

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The phrase "Epic fail" spring to mind on SA efforts so far tackle this problem

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Can't hurt to have Prince Harry on the right side of this war.

 

"the minister says that figures are no longer being released regularly as that supports poachers"

 

How terrible the evidence shows how easy it is to poach.

 

Thanks for the posts. Though they are awful

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The security would have to be extra special good on this occasion to avoid anything happening with prince harry ,just the sort of publicity you don't need

 

I emailed an environmental journalist who assumes that the source is well placed and regards the absence of regular official figures as a bad way to start speculation

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there is an interesting news 24 article about the insufficient legal response

 

in the words of a prosecutor the suspects are treated like shoplifters

 

there is no specific poaching offence so the approach is to go for high penalties on trespassing and firearms offences

 

see http://www.news24.com/green/news/poachers-courts-reveals-struggle-to-save-SA-rhino-20150810

 

sorry the link does not work

 

so go to http://www.news.24/SouthAfrica

 

go to search box

 

put in rhinos

 

the report is call poachers' court reveals struggle to save SA rhino it is dated 10 AUG

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so there is a new media release from the minister

 

please see http://www.environment.gov.za sorry cut and paste links no longer work for me

it gives no figures at all on the number of deaths

 

this year to date there have been 1617 poaching activities in kruger, there are about 3 per day

 

it mentions measures being taken

 

there is also a powerpoint presentation slides attachment

 

well at least the number of incursuions per day are coming down

 

according to a graph about 2 rhinos were poached per day during jan ,feb and march 2015

 

there are about 11.000 rhinos in kruger

 

there is a map which gives the approximate location of Kruger rangers, that really is the sort of information which should not be published

 

 

there is no mention of anything in the release or presentation of anything outside kruger national park

 

a whole lot of what is now on the newspage of the envir dept has the minister in an active role, kind of like her diary

 

so they don't give the public important information to bring them along with what has to be done, but then turn the site over for the ministers political advancement

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NEWS 24 REPORTS

 

1 year to date 749 deaths nation wide with 544 from kruger, this looks like selective briefing without a press release

 

2 oct 2014 2 Mozambique poachers caught in kruger around lower sabie given 11 years jail each from firearms, ammunition and trespassing charges. good sentence, but it does not look good not to have a specific offence for poaching

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So the National environmental management act is to be amended , over things like envasive species control , mining approvals and banning some activities in marine reserves.

 

it is patently obvious that a specific wildlife poaching offence is needed, the law is being changed, but not this

 

so poachers and dealers will continue to be charges with trespass , illegal possession of firearms etc

 

overlooking this leads me to ask questions why no specific offence ?

 

why is this charge not being made ?

 

it leads me to thing not much of the sth African govt approach to this vital issue

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minister announces that there will be another rhino poaching update

 

30 nov no press release on the web site , nothing in the press

 

what happened ? perhaps she got too busy packing for her trip the Paris climate talks

 

well where are the priorities

 

  • don't make announcements you can't keep
  • a senior parks or police official could have done the announcement for her

 

as it stands at the moment the department's press releases section on the web sit has been turned into a fan page for the minister and deputy minister

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minister announces that there will be another rhino poaching update

 

30 nov no press release on the web site , nothing in the press

 

~ @@COSMIC RHINO

 

From what you read, was there any indication as to what sort of update it might be?

In other words, does it concern an impending arrest? An anti-poaching technological breakthrough? New deadlines or quotas?

Tom K.

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they have happened before

 

  • talk about issues ,.trends, challenges and approaches
  • followed by stats table poaching and arrests with good regional breakdown
  • the most recent one was cagey, the poaching and arrest figures with a national total and the Kruger area figures only were buried in a paragraph about half way through a multi page document, to find things out you have to carefully read ever word

 

well they used to report figures ever month with kruger, provincial and national totals, I would not be the only one to think that is honest and the best way to do things

 

so the minister declares that being open in giving vital information to poachers

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link tested and works

NORTH KOREAN DIPLOMAT EXPELLED FROM SA FOR RHINO HORN TRAFFICKING

 

http://www.allafrica.com/stories/201512231138.html

 

on 3 may a car with north Koran diplomatic number plates for the Pretoria embassy was found in Maputo , the capital of Mozambique with 4 1/2 of rhino horn and USD 99,300 in cash

 

the sth African government gave the embassy a 30 day deadline for senior official Pak Chol jun to leave the country

 

he left quietly on 11 December

 

the Sth Korean embassy reports that the north Korean embassy does this please see (UPI report called ILLEGAL RHINO HORNS FOUND ON N KPREANS ARRWESTED IN MOZANBIQUE)

 

since cars are not often checked they abuse this situation.

 

I can't see why diplomats are allowed to get away with this like this , diplomatic privelleges were not intended to be abuse permits

 

north Korean embassy staff have been previously linked to

 

 

  • major illegal ivory trade in the late 1980's
  • ivory and rhino horn trade out of Zimbabwe in the 1980's

I am totally disgusted

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Very interesting @@COSMIC RHINO and sadly Diplomatic Immunity covers/protects the perpetrators of many criminal actions.

 

BTW your link works :)

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reading the report Nth Korea has multiple embassiesd in Africa but underfunds them , so they do their own supplementary work illegal wildlife trade, fake USD notes and gold smuggling .in

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One more weapon for the poachers to use: diplomatic immunity.

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the Vietnamese embassy has previously come to the notice of the south African police over rhino horn but nothing was done due to diplomatic immunity

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the Vietnamese embassy has previously come to the notice of the south African police over rhino horn but nothing was done due to diplomatic immunity

 

~ @@COSMIC RHINO

 

Certain nations distort the nature of diplomatic immunity as a fig leaf to cover their own dirty trafficking in wildlife parts.

Ugly, ugly, ugly...yet unlikely to slow down due to their perception that they're able to “get away with it” without any consequences.

Future generations will look back at this, asking why more wasn't done to put a stop to such gross misbehavior.

Tom K.

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Neither the Vietnamese Embassy nor the North Korean can can continue to get away with such criminal behavior,it simply can't be tolerated.

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Neither the Vietnamese Embassy nor the North Korean can can continue to get away with such criminal behavior,it simply can't be tolerated.

 

~ @@optig

 

One hopes that you're feelings reflect the attitudes of authorities worldwide.

This has been going on too long.

Tom K.

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I agree,however, I do see a backlash taking place. The fact is that the price of ivory has fallen in China due to a combination of factors. The Vietnamese people arre showing increasing sensitivity, and disdain for rhino horn and realize that it's a stain on their country's image.

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I do see a backlash happening for a variety of reasons; the new government of Tanzania is cracking down hard on poaching, Dr. Richard is head of the KWS again,ivory is increasingly less socially acceptable in China and Hong Kong, and the the Vietnamese public is increasingly less tolerant of rhino horn. Yes, I do sincerely feel that things really are going in the right direction.

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What on earth is @@@@ going on ?

 

NEWS 24 reports that it takes almost 5 years for a former soldier to be charged in court with poaching 6 rhinos in Kruger

 

he was dressed in uniform when he did it and has been let out on bail

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This is indeed ridiculous,however, at least he's being charged with rhino poaching. South Africa's legal system is working,however,only very weakly.

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  • There is an interesting article on rhino poachers for Mozambique going into kruger national park ,please see http://oxpeckers.org THE UPHILL BATLLE TO SAVE RHINOS IN MOZAMBIQUE 1 JUNE 2016 so much of it is economically motivated , they think by using magic potions they would become invisible to rangers ,well things don't work out that way

reference was made to a 2014 US State Dept report on poaching ,please see POACHING RHINO HORN IN SOUTH AFRICA AND MOZAMBIQUE COMMUNITY AND EXPERT VIEWS FROM THE TRENCHES

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