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#21 AfricIan

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 11:40 AM

Consider a "what if" - Flying to Tanzania from the UK via Nairobi, change of plane only in Nairobi therefore YF NOT needed.  Unfortunately flight into Nairobi delayed so connecting flight missed.  Airline "does the right thing" & offers you an off-airport hotel room until they can get you on the next flight.  The moment you step out of the airport you are then arriving in Tanzania from Kenya and DO need YF vaccination - or do you fancy spending many many (many) hours in JKIA?

 

For @Laura82 's trip there shouldn't be an issue but what if bad weather causes a diversion?

 

Having heard my sisters hell story of having a syringe & rusty needle waved at her whilst transiting through Uganda once because she hadn't got a YF certificate, I wouldn't take the chance


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 02:04 PM

I would rather get the YF shot (it's valid for 10 years and never know when you need it) ...... The airport was still under renovation as of October with very limited infrastructure at the moment.


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:53 PM

@AfricIan oh my gosh that is crazy about your sister! I do want to get the shot, so that's not really the issue for me, it's more that the stupid clinic is making me see my primary care dr first because I have a sore throat and told them and now my primary care can't see me til Monday etc etc. But I guess I will just jump through the hoops or if I just feel better before Monday maybe they'll let me just schedule it again without seeing the primary care.



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 08:44 PM

Hi @SafariChick, experience has told me that in cases like this if a medic says jump the correct answer is "how high" - it's invariably a waste of time arguing, even when you know you're right!  You're probably correct in that your children have kindly donated their bugs to you - most are very generous in that regard! Hopefully you'll feel better in a few days & all will be sorted out.

 

My sisters tale was from about 20 years ago and she was a little naive - it was pretty clear after the event that a folded $20 note would have resolved the "problem" of not having a certificate but it's very easy for me to say that now, I wasn't the one in the firing line!


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Posted 11 December 2014 - 04:26 PM

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My sisters tale was from about 20 years ago and she was a little naive - it was pretty clear after the event that a folded $20 note would have resolved the "problem" of not having a certificate but it's very easy for me to say that now, I wasn't the one in the firing line!


I have heard of others having a very similar experience to your sister in various African countries - no YF certificate, '...come with us into a back room', wave rusty needle, pay $$'s.

As you say, it is just a ruse to extract money from ill-prepared visitors.

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 09:49 PM

After hearing @African stories, I'd go for the YF shot! Esp. if delays are incurred.

 

I am tearing through the new house looking for Malarone pills I had packed (tons, both my doc and hubby's doc prescribed enough for months!) and our insurance conveniently covered them.

 

 Might find them by Feb :blink:


Edited by graceland, 11 December 2014 - 09:50 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2014 - 06:12 PM

Another "Get the shot" from me.

 

My probably most dangerous Africa experience: We flew from Tanzania to Zanzibar. Our plane was early(!) and landed almost simultaneously with a plane coming in from Kenya. The officials (who did not speak English) believed I came from Kenya, and a YF pass was mandatory for people coming in from there, so they wanted to vaccinate me at the airport.

 

I pretended to not understand them, just smiled and laughed at them, waved Good Bye and simply went out. I was really, really glad that they didn´t quite know what to do, just shrugged and didn´t come after me.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 03:30 AM


I pretended to not understand them, just smiled and laughed at them, waved Good Bye and simply went out.

Good strategy for so many situations.

 

@Africlan, very scary.  Your account may send some people to the clinic and may permit them to avoid their own scary story.  Is your sister ok?


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 03:42 AM


By the way, @Atravelynn , I read that the thing about side effects going up after 60 is only when you're having the vaccine for the first time after 60, not later boosters. (though maybe those will no longer be required soon from what I read on this thread).

Oh, I was planning out my entire travel future so that I'd get a YF shot before it was dangerous due to age but as late as possible to give me 10 years of travel before I had to decide about getting one over 60 when the risks go up.  Planning forward all those years from age 24  was quite a task!  -_-.  Now maybe I don't have to worry about it since I've had some YFs already and a booster is no big deal.  Great!


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 03:56 PM

Hi Lynn

 

 

 

My sister is fine thanks - 20 years ago she was on her first posting with the UK Foreign Office and very naive on the corrupt practices prevalent in so many places, not just in Africa. Lets just say she wouldn't fall for it now!

 

The "what-if" is one from our collection - fortunately we already had our YF certificates as were returning to Kenya after Tanzania so the delay was just an inconvenience & we didn't have to spend it in the airport. 


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 04:00 PM

Hi Lynn

 

@Africlan, very scary.  Your account may send some people to the clinic and may permit them to avoid their own scary story.  Is your sister ok?

 

My sister is fine thanks - 20 years ago she was on her first posting with the UK Foreign Office and very naive on the corrupt practices prevalent in so many places, not just in Africa. Lets just say she wouldn't fall for it now!

 

The "what-if" is one from our collection - fortunately we already had our YF certificates as were returning to Kenya after Tanzania so the delay was just an inconvenience & we didn't have to spend it in the airport. 

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 05:11 PM

I read that the thing about side effects going up after 60 is only when you're having the vaccine for the first time after 60, not later boosters. (though maybe those will no longer be required soon from what I read on this thread).

 

 

We, my husband and I, also had our first YF shot at the age of 63. And it was absolutely no problem, no side effects etc.

The doctor at the "Tropeninstitut" told us, that the time of the ugly side effects are gone a long time ago.

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 05:22 PM

Update: felt better, throat not hurting any more, canceled appointment with my primary care dr. Called travel clinic back and said I wanted to reschedule the shot. He remembered my whole story, said fine, went in yesterday and got the shot - no problems so far!


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 06:15 PM

Update: felt better, throat not hurting any more, canceled appointment with my primary care dr. Called travel clinic back and said I wanted to reschedule the shot. He remembered my whole story, said fine, went in yesterday and got the shot - no problems so far!

Good to hear! One tick off the box. Now get the malarone. My least fav. of all the drugs to take  ( :( )

 

I am just over Bronchitis and Sinusitis, so happy I have my YF from  years ago. I'd not be wanting one more drug in me. And the fact I've had no wine for 10days; good thing it was all before Xmas parties! That's what I get for volunteering the pouring rain.


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Posted 18 December 2014 - 03:00 AM

Update: felt better, throat not hurting any more, canceled appointment with my primary care dr. Called travel clinic back and said I wanted to reschedule the shot. He remembered my whole story, said fine, went in yesterday and got the shot - no problems so far!

 

 

@SafariChick glad to hear it! i got my first shot at age 54, and it was a painful jab ( i hate needles), but that was all to it. i'd forgotten about it from the following day. so you should be fine and you can relax now and properly look forward to the trip!

 

only 53 days (did i do the math right?) now and counting down....



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 08:22 AM

@Kitsafari I count 52 days for me til I leave from today so I think your math was right as of yesterday! Woo hoo!  Yes I can relax and properly look forward for sure now :)  @graceland glad to hear you're feeling better. And I already got the malarone back in October! When I got it for my Zambia trip I asked for enough for this trip too so I wouldn't have to go back  :)



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:29 PM

 

Update: felt better, throat not hurting any more, canceled appointment with my primary care dr. Called travel clinic back and said I wanted to reschedule the shot. He remembered my whole story, said fine, went in yesterday and got the shot - no problems so far!

 

 

@SafariChick glad to hear it! i got my first shot at age 54, and it was a painful jab ( i hate needles), but that was all to it. i'd forgotten about it from the following day. so you should be fine and you can relax now and properly look forward to the trip!

 

only 53 days (did i do the math right?) now and counting down....

 

 

@Kitsafari I count 52 days for me til I leave from today so I think your math was right as of yesterday! Woo hoo!  Yes I can relax and properly look forward for sure now :)  @graceland glad to hear you're feeling better. And I already got the malarone back in October! When I got it for my Zambia trip I asked for enough for this trip too so I wouldn't have to go back  :)

 

I'm packed :D


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Posted 02 March 2015 - 09:59 PM

My YF certificate unfortunately expired at the end of last year so I recently had to go and have the booster vaccine in order to get a new certificate for my forthcoming return trip to Chad as having a valid certificate is one of the entry requirements. Thankfully I didn’t really suffer any ill effects other than not feeling that great afterwards but then I had been given a typhoid booster jab the day before so that may also have been the cause of my feeling slightly off. However I am extremely glad that I had not read this article in the Telegraph about the BBC Journalist Malcolm Brabant who apparently suffered severe psychosis after having the YF booster for an assignment in the Ivory Coast which rendered him unable to work, he is now involved in a court case with the manufacturer Sanofi Pasteur.

 

Malcolm Brabant: 'I suffered psychosis after a routine injection'

 

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I certainly wasn’t aware that the YF vaccine could have such serious side effects but it is one of the jabs that they are reluctant to give you unless absolutely necessary and when I went for my booster I did have to make it clear to the nurse that I really did have to have it.

 

What particularly annoys me about the fact that I had to have the YF booster jab is that it should be completely unnecessary  because it has been known since about 2013 that a single dose of the vaccine may last a lifetime, however inexplicably the W.H.O. are only changing the rules regarding the certificates in June 2016.  So after June next year the YF certificate will last you for your lifetime but until then it will still only last for 10yrs maybe this makes sense to the W.H.O. but it makes no sense to me.  

 

Here’s a petition asking the W.H.O to update the International Health Regulations on YF now and not next year.

 

Aside from the risk of possible side effects it cost me £55 for this unnecessary jab just so I could get a new certificate. So I would suggest to anyone who has a certificate that has just expired or is about to expire before the rule change comes in to force that you adjust your travel plans accordingly and don’t go anywhere that requires you to have a YF certificate until after the rule change thus avoiding having to have an unnecessary booster jab.


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Posted 02 March 2015 - 10:12 PM

@inyathi Thanks for your update and thoughts old chap.


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:37 PM

Had our vaccinations last week for Tanzania trip this September.

Travelling from UK to Tanzania via Nairobi, only an hour or so changing planes.

So no Yellow Fever required.

However we were also concerned re if plane delayed and spend more than 12 hours at Nairobi then do need yellow Fever vaccine.
We had YF vacc in 2000 - valid for 10 years . When we went for our jabs they checked and YF jab now valid for 25 years and we were told that our jab ( which is specified on the certificate ) is the same one in use today, and that we are therefore still covered until 2025.

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