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John Frederick Walker in Cangandala National Park, Angola

John Frederick Walker has been traveling to Africa and reporting on the continent since 1986. His latest book is Ivory’s Ghosts: The White Gold of History and the Fate of Elephants, which famed field biologist George Schaller called "superb...essential reading for anyone concerned with conservation." It's now available in paperback and ebook editions. He is also the author of the highly praised A Certain Curve of Horn: The Hundred-Year Quest for the Giant Sable Antelope of Angola, a narrative of his search for an endangered species in war-torn Africa. Walker’s writings have appeared in The New York Times, National Geographic Traveler, Africa Geographic, Wildlife Conservation, and numerous other publications, and have been short-listed for a Reuters-IUCN Media Award for Excellence in Environmental Reporting. He developed the Ivory Project at the African Wildlife Foundation to examine the impact of ivory on elephant management and frequently lectures on conservation at zoos and natural history museums across the US.

Visit his website at: www.johnfrederickwalker.com

Should countries be allowed to sell stockpiled ivory in order to help to fund conservation in that country?

My view is that no country with elephants inside its borders should be allowed to sell its stockpiled ivory unless their elephant population is stable in numbers and well-protected. However, if an African country meets that standard, then I think they should be allowed to sell off stockpiled ivory to raise funds specifically for elephant conservation, including anti-poaching efforts.

In your opinion, what is best – total ban on the sale of ivory, one off sales, such as has happened previously, and as Zambia and Tanzania are applying for now, or a regular series of sales of smaller quantities, thus not to release all the stockpiled ivory in one hit, in which countries alternate? (Please give pros and cons for each.)

The ivory ban was supposed to put an end to elephant poaching. It’s been in effect for two decades, but it hasn’t worked—illegal killings of elephants are once again at alarming levels. We can never return to an unregulated ivory trade, but it’s clearly time for some fresh thinking on how the ban could be revised.


The Kilimanjaro tusks, the largest ever recorded; Zanzibar 1898

Ivory has been a revered commodity for thousands of years, and frankly it’s unrealistic to think that interest in it will fade away. Besides, it’s not necessary to kill elephants to obtain ivory—they leave their tusks behind when they die. That’s why some African countries who are doing a good job by their elephants feel they have a right to sell off their ivory stockpiles to raise money for elephant conservation.

But these “one-off” sales are a poor way to go about it. Ivory traders in the countries that are allowed to buy ivory for domestic consumption (currently, Japan and China) can’t rely on a steady inflow of tusks—decisions on whether or not to allow these sales are made at each CITES meeting. This has the unfortunate effect of keeping the black market alive.

It would make far more sense to set up a strict mechanism for regular auctions of a small amount of ivory from states with demonstrably well-managed herds. (It should be noted that Tanzania and Zambia may fail to make their case.) It’s been estimated that natural deaths in the current African elephant population could yield a 100 tons of legal ivory a year, enough to supply the legitimate Asian market. That would undercut the black market.

The sale of ivory is an emotive subject, but in your opinion, who is best placed to decide if African countries can sell their ivory stockpiles?

Because there are political as well as biological dimensions to the sale of ivory, it’s a conservation issue that can only be decided at an appropriate international forum—inevitably, that’s CITES.

“One off ivory sales will lead to increased and unsustainable levels of elephant poaching.” Right or wrong? What is your assessment of such a statement?

Kenya and other countries opposed to any ivory trade argue that any legal ivory sales stimulate poaching. But TRAFFIC, the joint IUCN/WWF wildlife trade monitoring network, says there was no hard evidence for that following the 1999 one-off sale to Japan. In fact, illicit trade in ivory declined for five years. Following the 2008 sale, the trend isn’t definitive yet, though there was a strong upsurge in illegal trade in 2009. There are a number of factors that drive the illegal market in ivory—among them, poverty and human desperation, not just the existence of legal sales.

To the best of your knowledge, how does the 23 member African Elephants Coalition function, and is this the right way forward in managing the elephant question and associated issues such as sale of ivory?

The African Elephant Coalition is facilitated by IFAW and reflects its anti-ivory stance. It does not represent the views of every African elephant range state.

If ivory sales do go ahead, how can the proceeds be directly channeled into wildlife / elephant conservation in the respective countries? What controls are there in country to ensure that the money is spent correctly, and not misappropriated?

According to CITES, any revenues from the sale of ivory stockpiles must be managed through conservation trust funds and go toward enhancing elephant conservation, monitoring and community development in elephant ranges. The revenues don’t just disappear into government coffers. Some $15 million was raised in the 2008 sales. I agree that more transparency on what happened to these funds would be desirable.

To where/whom can blame be apportioned for the high levels of elephant poaching in African countries. (In country, as opposed to those fuelling demand).

It’s not a coincidence that those African countries plagued with ivory poaching are also countries that are either at war, or suffering from drought or awash with displaced peoples, and often riddled with corruption or simply lacking effective conservation and enforcement. By contrast, stable countries in southern Africa, such as Namibia, Botswana and South Africa are able to keep poaching to a minimum. In fact, they have too many elephants for the habitat available to them.

Use of military force has been advocated in order to protect elephant and rhino populations, and indeed, the army has recently been deployed in Kruger for this purpose. (Source – San Parks) Is this the answer? How would different countries put this into practice, and would use of such force further alienate local communities who are often disenfranchised from their traditional lands due to national parks and reserves?

I’m not comfortable with “shoot on sight” anti-poaching policies in African parks. If it’s not a policy that would be tolerated in European and North American parks to combat poaching, then why should it be considered appropriate for African countries? To my mind, using military forces for wildlife enforcement is over-kill, and just reinforces the belief among many rural Africans that their governments care more about their elephants than their own people.

How is it that China, being a CITES member, (despite its poor track record in terms of illicit trade in endangered species / animal parts), and being the largest marketplace for ivory, can play an active role in any decision whether to permit the sale of ivory?

China is one of 175 nations that are parties to CITES and its conventions. Because of its size, and its historic interest in ivory, it is vital that ways be found for it to play a positive role in an evolving global ivory policy. China took strong steps to regulate its domestic ivory trade, which helped it get CITES approval as a buyer of legal ivory. However, it is not doing enough to police its nationals working in Africa, far too many of whom are engaging in ivory trafficking, which fuels poaching.

Animal rights advocates, (Not conservation NGOs working in the field) - well intentioned they may be, but in your opinion do they complicate the issue, especially if they operate from outside of Africa itself? Should they be able to have influence on any political decisions taken with regard to ivory sales and issues such as trophy hunting / culling?

It’s a positive thing when animal rights advocates focus attention on animal abuse and wildlife trafficking. It’s a negative thing when they advocate agendas which are divorced from biological realities. To be good stewards of the planet, it’s vital for us to protect biodiversity. That means tough decisions have to made—like ridding ecosystems of invasive species that are destroying them. It’s also negative when these groups completely dismiss the need for people in developing countries to benefit from the wildlife they live with. The amount of influence some of these animal groups have in African countries is wildly inappropriate. Would the US tolerate Nigeria telling it what should be done with grizzly bears in Yellowstone? African countries should be able to manage their own wildlife free of foreigners buying influence over conservation policy or threatening tourist boycotts if they don’t get their way.

Aside from the ivory trade, what other threats exist to the elephants in Africa, and what steps are being taken / should be taken to address these problems?

Human-elephant conflict. It’s almost completely ignored in the media, but rural Africans living in or next to elephant habitat suffer when these giants raid their crops, and sadly, sometimes even lose their lives. A country like Kenya, with a growing human population, is rapidly losing elephant habitat. The Kenya Wildlife Service doesn’t discuss it, but it has to shoot several hundred problem elephants a year on control work.

Why are some countries so successful in managing their elephants populations, i.e. Botswana and South Africa to name but two, when others seem to be struggling?

Botswana and South Africa are functioning democracies, with well-run wildlife and parks departments and excellent anti-poaching units.


Is culling the best way to control elephant populations, especially in fenced reserves such as Kruger? If so, why? What are the alternatives, and have any been proven to be successful in managing large numbers?

I wrote about this complex issue in detail in Ivory’s Ghosts. You can use birth-control or translocate herds to keep elephant numbers down in very small parks, but these methods are simply unworkable in a park the size of Kruger. That leaves culling as the only practical method of population control—short of letting elephants denude their habitat and waiting for a mass die-off, something that would be far more cruel.

What should those African countries, who have successfully managed their elephant populations, do to help other nations who have a poor track record? Indeed, should they help, financially, or with expert assistance, or would the effort be better spent on protecting their own elephant populations? Should there be greater cross border co-operation between countries, and how could this work?

I think African countries with successful elephant management policies could certainly share their expertise, but the countries that need the advice often lack the infrastructure and political will to implement workable policies of their own. A huge problem is the failure of many Africa countries to police their own domestic markets where all too often ivory carvings are openly sold. These serve as headquarters for illegal ivory trafficking and must be shut down.

If a country’s infrastructure is recovering from the ravages of previous civil war, e.g. Mozambique, should large scale elephant translocations be considered as a way of thinning numbers from more populated countries, e.g. South Africa / Botswana, or would this be a huge waste of resources, financially and otherwise?

Elephant translocation is wildly expensive, requiring helicopters, veterinary teams, giant cargo jets—using translocation as a means to reduce elephant populations would be a huge waste of resources that could be put to better conservation use. Translocating a few elephants to restart populations that have been wiped out, however, is a different story.

"Trophy hunting can play a role in wildlife conservation." Do you agree or disagree with this statement and why?

Many people find trophy hunting personally abhorrent. But it brings in a lot of money to wildlife departments for very little environmental impact. Hunters pay stiff fees for the privilege of shooting a few animals. So long as the quota of animals that can be hunted is based on a careful biological assessment of how many can be shot without having any significant impact on an animal population, it’s pointless to pass up hunting fees as a source of conservation funds. Hunters are also after untouched wilderness and simple camps, unlike camera-toting tourists who look for lodges, flush toilets and restaurants—all of which have a negative impact on wildlife habitat. Besides, there are many African habitats that are wildlife rich, but of zero tourist interest. Hunters are the only ones who might spend money in these swamps and scrublands.

With or without the ivory ban, in your opinion, what is the best way to ensure the long term conservation of the African elephant?

The best way to ensure that the African elephant has a future is to start by being realistic about its plight. There are some hard decisions ahead. For example, it’s not a contradiction to care about elephants and yet accept that in some places their numbers have to be reduced. Elephants don’t mix well with fences, roads, villages, development in general. They need space and protection. In an Africa of ever-shrinking wildlife habitats, that won’t be cheap. We should let elephants help fund their future by allowing tightly controlled sales of the tusks they leave behind.


The views expressed therein are solely those of the interviewee and do not necessarily reflect those of Safaritalk.


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- Game Warden   John Frederick Walker - Author and Conservationist   Feb 6 2010, 01:00 AM
- - sniktawk   Matt, Thanks a lot for this, good questions and w...   Feb 6 2010, 05:02 AM
|- - Chris Ingham   QUOTE (sniktawk @ Feb 5 2010, 09:02 PM) M...   Mar 29 2010, 03:44 AM
- - ZaminOz   Gee Dub'ya, Thanks for publishing a great int...   Feb 8 2010, 12:51 AM
- - Game Warden   John is making available to Safaritalk members sig...   Feb 8 2010, 12:57 AM
- - twaffle   There is quite a bit here to digest and his expert...   Feb 8 2010, 02:56 AM
- - dikdik   Now here is a man who knows what he is talking abo...   Feb 8 2010, 04:21 AM
- - Jude   It’s a positive thing when animal rights advocates...   Feb 20 2010, 01:04 AM
- - dikdik   You shouldn't let scientific facts get in the ...   Mar 24 2010, 05:23 AM
|- - Pangolin   QUOTE (dikdik @ Mar 23 2010, 10:23 PM) Yo...   Mar 24 2010, 05:35 AM
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|- - Jude   QUOTE (dikdik @ Mar 24 2010, 04:02 PM) Bu...   Apr 14 2010, 07:29 AM
|- - dikdik   QUOTE (Jude @ Apr 14 2010, 09:29 AM) Sust...   Apr 14 2010, 11:05 AM
- - Game Warden   Perhaps the question this raises, and the recent C...   Mar 24 2010, 07:05 AM
|- - dikdik   QUOTE (Game Warden @ Mar 24 2010, 09:05 A...   Mar 24 2010, 07:23 AM
- - Game Warden   I think there is a difference between hunting vs a...   Mar 25 2010, 09:18 AM
|- - dikdik   QUOTE (Game Warden @ Mar 25 2010, 11:18 A...   Mar 25 2010, 10:26 AM
- - twaffle   Game Warden, I have to agree with your comment. I...   Mar 25 2010, 09:35 AM
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