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post Feb 8 2009, 09:57 AM
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Reports www.ohmidog.com. At the Cango Wildlife Reserve in the Oudsthoorn area of South Africa, Lisha has helped raise more then 30 different animals. To read the full article click here.


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post Feb 8 2009, 10:49 PM
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I wonder why the photo is of cheetah cubs when they are talking of tiger cubs … or perhaps one wild cat with tan and black is much the same as another! laugh.gif


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post Feb 8 2009, 10:59 PM
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Not a rare event...somebody asked me just two nights ago if I'd been back to Africa recently and seen any tigers. laugh.gif
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post Feb 9 2009, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (John Milbank @ Feb 9 2009, 09:29 AM) *
Not a rare event...somebody asked me just two nights ago if I'd been back to Africa recently and seen any tigers. laugh.gif



It's unbelievable, isn't it! And how often have I told someone that I'm visiting Kenya (it could be any other sub saharan country) and then 2 minutes later I'm asked when I'm leaving for South Africa. Nothing against South Africa, but why don't people take a little more effort to learn about their world!! huh.gif


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post Feb 9 2009, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE (twaffle @ Feb 9 2009, 01:14 AM) *
And how often have I told someone that I'm visiting Kenya (it could be any other sub saharan country) and then 2 minutes later I'm asked when I'm leaving for South Africa. Nothing against South Africa, but why don't people take a little more effort to learn about their world!! huh.gif
It might also be problem of listening.
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post Feb 9 2009, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (John Milbank @ Feb 8 2009, 11:59 PM) *
Not a rare event...somebody asked me just two nights ago if I'd been back to Africa recently and seen any tigers. laugh.gif
John, you never told us that you've been on safari with John Varty! tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2009, 05:08 AM
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Nyama,

I remember a Discovery channel program a few years ago, where JV was trying to get the Tigers to adapt to SA and to save them from extinction.


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post Feb 9 2009, 05:39 AM
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Paris Hilton must remind us who the President of West Africa is because I am sure that I can't remember!!

If anyone has a copy of the National Anthem we could all learn to sing it. laugh.gif

Only recently (and I am sure John would remember better details than I) there was an eccentric WA millionaire who set up a private game sanctuary in the Northern Territory filled with African wild animals including rhinos. He lost money and interest and the animals (according to the local press) were left to starve. I believe Steve Irwin's Australia Zoo took some, don't remember what happened to the others.

It would be probably be better if tigers could be saved closer to their native home just as this Aussie would have been better off not trying to duplicate the African savannah for his private gratification. The animals always seem to be the ones suffering in the end.


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post Feb 9 2009, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE (nyama @ Feb 9 2009, 12:36 PM) *
John, you never told us that you've been on safari with John Varty! tongue.gif


No, but I've been on safari with Varta backup...casts a brighter light for conservation wink.gif
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post Feb 9 2009, 08:35 AM
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Hahaha. Now that's too funny, Ken!!!

Lord Almighty saw Tigers in the Sabi Sands.........



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post Feb 9 2009, 02:15 PM
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With the tiger sanctuaray, people can now strive for the SSGR Big 8 --lions, buffalo, leopard, rhino, elephant, wild dogs, cheetah, and tigers!

If the African tiger sanctuary increases the chances for survival of the species, then I'm for it. I had heard about it before, but did not know the specifics.

On the lack of geography knowledge, from my experience many people have little clue about the world at large. They are too busy surviving in their own little corner to know much about other places that they will never visit. I just use the general description of Africa and then they can seek out more details if they wish.

I find I can use a brush up on geography and world leaders every now and then, and not just the president of West Africa. unsure.gif

Something that doesn't help with placing species and habitat in the right places together is that Wizard of Oz tune, Lions and Tigers, and Bears, Oh My! But if Dorothy and her friends were walking through forests in India, maybe they could accurately sing that tune--Asiatic lions, tigers, sloth bear and some others I believe.




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post Feb 9 2009, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (nyama @ Feb 9 2009, 03:06 AM) *
on safari with John Varty!
QUOTE (sniktawk @ Feb 9 2009, 04:24 PM) *
Varty's Tigers are somewhere called Tiger Canyons, in the Karoo someway south of Bloomfontein. This is a long long way from Sabi Sands.
Just click the link.
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post Feb 9 2009, 05:44 PM
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As you can see in this video, there certainly are tigers in Kenya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFcR96SPF2w...feature=related


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post Feb 10 2009, 02:26 AM
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Lynn,

You must admit - the Youtube description of the Tigers in the SSGR, along with the accompanying fodors thread is pretty hilarious!!!


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post Feb 10 2009, 05:10 AM
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Do you think Lord Richard had visited John Varty's or whether the tiger viewing reference was just a slip of the tongue. I.e. as children we always say "lions and tigers" without thinking about it? I just shudder to think of the conversation between Richard and his brother David!!!!


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post Feb 10 2009, 05:59 AM
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I watched a documentary on Varty's tiger project a few years ago, and must say it left me cold.

Doesn't Africa's own wildlife need all the help it can get? There are quite a few hard workers doing their best, plus a lot of misguided schemes, and bludgers and hangers-on who are just in it for the money-- and the tiger project strikes me as a diversion of resources as well as being a highly doubtful means of returning tigers to the wild. The first thing that needs to be done is to secure the habitat where they exist naturally...until that's done, what's the point?
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post Feb 10 2009, 06:34 AM
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http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story...EWEN20090083085

sorry, Ken - no proper initiatives out here to save the Tiger. See above............ more bad news

Infact, see other headlines on the NDTV site. We people are not safe at home, either....... we have to battle those assholes from across the border.


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post Feb 11 2009, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (sniktawk @ Feb 9 2009, 04:24 PM) *
Varty's Tigers are somewhere called Tiger Canyons, in the Karoo someway south of Bloomfontein. This is a long long way from Sabi Sands.


As I mentioned my own geography can use some brushing up. The marketing campaign could still advertise the Big 8 (lions, tigers, leopards, elephants, rhino, buffalo, wild dogs, cheetah) in South Africa, if not the Sabi Sands.

&Beyond may be offering Big 8 homesteads soon.


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